I am working on finishing the front end of my YJ and I pulled the hubs, and knuckles and figured while I was there I am going to replace upper and lower ball joints so I know the age of them. I do have a ball joint press, and I know once I have the lower off the upper will be cake, but how in the $%## do you get the lower one off!!!!! Any words of advise or even a hand would be awesome!! And yes I can pay with beer if need be.....let me know so I can get this part of the prodject done....thanks in advance Steve